In the factory at which I worked for a few, I know that. While cellulose insulation is one of the earliest insulation materials still used today, it didn't become a popular choice until the 1950s. c. 30, and M.G.L. This 2,742-sq.-ft. Brian1968 Taylor mobile home at the beach. CathyWe have a 92 Palm Harbor double-wide mobile home. Note the weaving of the wattle. That means a contractor who does that kind of work has to bid higher. Im not sure I am visualizing your layout correctly, but things like seats are normally installed last and have no load bearing or sturctural importance.Janet SteuerI bought a 1969 Detroiter, 12 x 65 with a 12 x 50 addition on it.. a friend of mine put 6x6s in the entry between living room and addition room. Unlike a site built house there is NO extra weight bearing capacity. WillPaulYes, I think the weight is getting out of hand and you are asking for more problems.Keep in mind that mobile home manufacturers have engineers on staff full time. Open a door and measure the distance from the outside edge of the outside trim to the inside edge of the inside trim. Having spent a lifetime in manufacturing and fabrication, and having the equipment necessary at hand, I spliced another 10 of snake onto the existing snake and still with 60 of snake I have not been able to unplug the drain. I was wondering if I could just attach light weight bead board to the 22s (I assume thats whats in there! The metal track attached to the 2x 6 board weighs approximately 25lbs and will span a distance of 5 at the top of the wall next to the ceiling. Openings for windows and electrical outlets are cut. You might find this link entertaining http://hypertextbook.com/facts/2003/JackGreen.shtmlI suppose one of them could find a small soft spot but even that seems unlikely.Enjoy your party.Paul, Manufactured home warranties Mobile homes come with warranties. You will have to have a local A/C person take a look at it to tell you what you are dealing with. Log construction in the New World broke into two distinct types: the American interlocking corner approach and the Canadian (and obviously more superior) horizontal construction with corner posts. Both were readily displaced by timber framing due the savings in materials much less timber is used with timber frame construction than with horizontal log construction. This distance will be a little more than 8 inches if you have 2-by-6-inch framing and a little more than 6 inches if you have 2-by-4-inch framing. In our town there is a big debate about exterior walls. The function for the gypsum wallboard is fire resistance, shear resistance for the 2x4 frame and a contribution to the assembly air tightness. This adds the additional thickness needed for the door frame. Performance- This method is based entirely on energy use. The total difference in cost to build your house with 2x6 exterior construction vs 2x4 is $2,149.90. The history of construction is as old as the history of humanity. Should it be.PaulLeave it the way it came from the factory. The interior walls are pre-assembled, with paneling on only one side so the inside is accessible to electrical. It was braced in 1 spot before I got it. The framing is solidwalls straight as an arrow. The use of pre-fabrication goes back over a hundred years. I find that difficult because repair people tend to work in a very limited area and there is no way for me to hear about them. It is faster and cheaper to build and it provides a 5.5-inch cavity for insulation rather than a 3.5 inch cavity. Im surprised the thing is still standing. Guess what the animal dung was for? Is there any way to get a second opinion? They do make good negotiating points that may help you take a few thousand off the price. Due to financial hardships, I am thinking of moving back and working on it while living in it.Thank you for the book referral as well. We want to install the boards on the ceiling also. How big was it? If a couple of tires go at once and the frame hits the ground, it can be bent, making future leveling impossible. As of 9/21/18- Lowes lumber was $6.98 for a 2x6x9 and $4.36 for a 2x4x9 for a total difference of $2.62. Some builders say that they HAVE to be 2x6 for insulation and strength purposes. We didnt build this. I have not pursued it seriously, i could spend time at the library going over very old records and maybe find some historians but thats a lot of effort which i don't really want to go through. Its those linings and cavity fills that we are going to look at more closely. The 5/16" thickness used to be the most popular measurement for Paper On Gypsum (POG) wallboards, but the majority of new Clayton homes with POG wallboards are now 3/8". It seems like a huge expense. Image taken by Frode Inge Helland. K. AustinWe are moving into a 76 by 16 single wide mobile home. That seemed to signal the end of lumber's roller . The marks of a larger circular saw will look nearly straight on a small board but will run across at a noticeable angle.. During the late 1940s or early 1950s, builders in many areas of North America switched to planed 2x4s that measure 1.5" x 3.5". suaziz.com 2021. Opened the gable and put a 24 24 (3 8 pieces scabbed -held with screws) and screwed the ceiling trusses to the 24 24 -that was placed on edge in the attic for strength. ft. home, also is it just a matter of tightening the piers that are loose?PaulI dont know that there is any reason to re-level unless you notice problems. Do you mind sharing your opinion on installing a barn door on an interior wall of a 1981 Marlette? I am of course talking about walls. The dishwasher may be on the sink drain line but I dont know because I have never used it.PaulIf none of the other drains are having problems the blockage must be closer to the sink. No manufacturer would pay for even an extra foot of drain line. Please subscribe to get updates when the next blog is published. In the 1950s the board sheathing began to be replaced with plywood. The McCabe Residence passed the Energy Code Using the Performance path with the approved software REM Design. I think it is just what Im looking for. During transport the bumps, vibration, and other forces twist and torque the homes and frequently crack panels, loosen connections etc. Good thinking about where to place it.Paul. // Leaf Group. It was a 34 percent reduction in actual volume; as those in the trade would say, it's "selling air.". At what ACH do i need to consider an HRV (i also have a gas cooking stove and chimney vent water tank, furnace was replaced with 95.5AFUE with intake and exhaust 6 months ago). What if you opened the trap and worked on the nearby lines?Your diswasher comment bothers me a little. It seems to have been in use much earlier in the eastern parts of England (Norfolk, Suffolk, Essex, familiar names to the Yanks who were stationed there during the Second World War with the Eighth Air Force). Look really carefully around the water faucets in the tub to see if there is any sign they might be leaking and letting water run behind the wall. Back To Top. We have a roof built over our trailer (and existing addition alongside); I want to open up between the trailer and the addition. In the 1950s, plywood sheathing and particleboard became common, and, today, most standard-construction roofs use either half-inch plywood or particleboard's big brother, oriented-strand board (OSB). The weight will be directly over the I beams which is good.I dont know what sort of feet come on pool tables but if you wanted to distribute the weight you might consider putting down some plywood squares under the table. The humidifier was removed with the old furnace, but is the cause the crawlspace caused ACH (its closed but not airtight to the rest of the house) or is there some other method that humidity is being stripped? 271. $1.00 sq/ft- Insulate with R-21 fibrous material. Put 14 strips on ceiling (ripped to 3 to match 5/8 by 3 decorative trim. just not sure. Very similar! That risks cracking old ductwork, etc. joeSo my mobile home is to old to move so I am wanting to take the axles off of it is there any way that could cause an issuePaulAll the houses I moved were supported on blocks with the wheels and axels hanging from their mounts with no weight on them. Lumber's price remains well above its pre-pandemic range of $350 to $500, however. The wall frames were often infilled with vertical planks along with a whole bunch of other stuff. Everyone who has done home renovation or repair projects knows that. I too wanted to mention the in between size with the added 1/8". The answer to your question varies from location to location. The home is hooked up to power, water and gas and everything should get tested. Thanks for the replies Martin and Malcolm, when i moved in the blower door registered 17.68ACH50 (i have a crummy crawlspace) and with a few repairs i am now at 14.85ACH50 so i have a lot to do still, but i do hope that once i airseal the ceiling and dig out and poly the crawl i should have it reduced quite a bit. A frost-free faucet with a 4" stem will fit inside of a 2x6 wall, so there's really no excuse for a water line hanging in the middle of the room. The end of World War II caused the modular market to truly explode and greatly evolve. The third really big thing was the milling of logs into dimensional pieces of lumber each one the same as the next and the really important part these dimensional pieces of lumber were mass-produced. Common Residential Design Mistakes That Were Actually Built, https://uwaterloo.ca/heritage-resources-centre/sites/ca.heritage-resources-centre/files/uploads/files/heritage_resources_centre_architectural_styles_guide_reduced.pdf, A Proposed Solution to the Embodied Carbon Problem, A Look at State Premiers New Heat Pump Water Heater, Indoor Air Quality and Building Diagnostics. Maybe until the first snow? You can imagine that an 80 wall made of 2 x 4s butted together has LOTS of flex in it and how straight it becomes depends on the straightness of the floor it is attached to. The factory handles the home itself; the dealer is responsible for making sure the home was ordered properly and any optional features are installed properly, the setup company is responsible for setting and leveling the home, and hooking up the water, gas and electricity. You do NOT want to do anything that might weaken them.It would be much cheaper to buy a bed that fits.PaulTammieI was afraid that was the answer I was going to get, lol, thank you for replying, Paul. Look around the refrigerator for water damage from the condensation pan overflowing or a problem with the water dispenser connections.Turn on the water to the tub and sink, let it run for a minute or two and then flush the toilet two or three times. However, I never messed with load bearing walls and cant offer any specific suggestions. There are variations from factory to factory, but the homes are all built the same way. In the early years of regulating building construction, this caused a patchwork of building codes across Canada. Over time the wattle disappeared but the stucco stayed. Does this sound feasible? The cost is minimal compared to the benefits. We have installed 16 pine tongue and groove boards around the house to give it a cabin feel. The term clapboards comes from the Dutch klaphout (klappen, to split, crack). The interior wood lath and plaster began to be replaced with plaster covered plasterboard lath in the 1930s and then with gypsum wallboard in the 1950s. Am I able to take down the interior walls without worrying about structural integrity? Ive had several spots that leaked due to snow on the roof (I live in Iowa and the polar vortex last year wasnt easy on my roof). With the exception of spray foams, all the cavity insulations were convection suppressors with some radiation control properties they were not air barriers. Air tightness came from either sealing the interior lining (gypsum board) or sealing the exterior sheathing or sealing the polymer-based exterior building paper (more recently typically referred to as house wrap). The 1950s through 1970s. Juan InchaustiIts a good overall explanation as to how its built. Average U value- Beef up insulation in some areas so you can skimp in others as long as the average U-Vale is the same or better than a reference house. Working in construction for years I am able, but have no experience with mobiles. PaulI have a 2000 Homes of Merit double wide. The completed frame is lifted, moved over, and set down on top of the axles and wheels that have been assembled elsewhere. ChristineIve searched the floor articles and could find no articles on my issue. You might call a mobile home transport place to see if anyone wants to buy them. One more question for Paul: can we cut off the tongue and pull out the bench seat existing?PaulHi Alison,Cutting off the tongue shouldnt be a problem. may be promised and then not delivered. $1.95 sq/ft- 2x4 construction, 1" exterior foam board and R-13 cavity. The function of the house wrap in this wall assembly is both rainwater control and a contribution to the assembly air tightness. Ceiling is sound right now with no problems that we can see. If you have lots of wood available to you, why use wattle-and-daub infill? During the late 1940s or early 1950s, builders in many areas of North America switched to planed 2x4s that measure 1.5" x 3.5". #11. I was taught that a parge coat was the cementious rendering applied to the exterior of masonry foundation walls (to reduce groundwater entry) or to the interior of masonry mass walls (to reduce air leakage and water penetration), and finally to the interior of chimneys to improve gas tightness. It also lead to the introduction of layers of horizontally installed boards thicker than the clapboards - called sheathing all for the purpose of supporting the clapboards. By the beginnings of the 20th century the wood frame wall pretty much looks familiar to many of us. The new roof extends over both the trailer and the addition. Cut the 4 x 4 to a length that makes a tight fit between the top of the block and the bottom of the wall. Left the flat metal in place. You are telling me there are no leaks showing under the home so that cant be it. I removed date stamps because most of the information doesnt change much.I wouldnt expect any problems unless you have a particle board subfloor that has had water damage in the past. And for us more progressive folks I see a much greater thickness of exterior insulating sheathing and a hybrid cavity fill an R-50 wall. tami hendersonPlease help me. (Yeslots of money not wisely spent I knowI knowI knowbut had to live there much longer than planned and I couldnt stand the added depression from living in ugly.) So here we go, To determine the cost effectiveness of 2x6 construction. From mud huts and megalithic stones to mega highways and skyscrapers, the evolution of construction reflects mankind's ever . There are several actions that could trigger this block including submitting a certain word or phrase, a SQL command or malformed data. They're commonly used in structural construction projects such as framing walls in a house or building a deck. WillPaul, I am glad I found YOU!. Pry off a piece of interior trim from around the door or a window. when did 2x6 construction start in albertajessa seewald children's birthdays. All this sets the stage for three really, really big things that didnt seem like really, really big things at the time. Or could your house have been converted from a carriage house? The homes were moved by teams of horses. JonaI live in a 1978 double wide, not sure the make and model, I wanted to hang a swing in my sons room and was wondering if there should be studs or something in the ceiling to hang it from or if it would be a good idea, the swing is a cacoon like swing from IKEA. Boring, but true. The potential electrical problems need to be checked by someone with the right tools and the experience to know how to spot hidden damage. Do we see how repairing or replacing a ceiling panel can be a challenge? This website is using a security service to protect itself from online attacks. Compared to the weight of book cases, aquariums, water beds, pianos and other things people move into mobile homes your guests total weight is small.The heaviest point load on the floor will come from the high heels some of your guests will be wearing. On the evolutionary trail instead of Australopithecines, we will start with timber framing. Turn on every light. This is when protective mats are taken off the vinyl and any damage discovered. Polyurethane spray foam insulation was considered one of the greatest advancements in home insulation. We have extremely hard water. The edges of the studs are coated with liquid glue and pre-cut panels, which will become the inside wall of the house, are stapled into place. At the same time the floor is getting nailed down, the exterior and interior walls are being assembled. The answer to your question varies from location to location. Performance- I have passed using several different home designs. Is it advisable to plug the end of the ribs of the 5 rib strips. how the trusses are attached. Setup can raise tough issues because of the number of organizations involved. The nominal 2x4 thus became the actual 1 x 3, imperceptibly, a fraction of an inch at a time. TammieI have a 1998 1676 Fleetwood mobile home, can I raise the ceiling in the master bedroom and if so how? Amazing, but true. Well, you canwith the right compliance method. Vinyl is put in place and stapled around the edges (no adhesive). Hes recommending taking the siding off, putting up plywood and then wrapping with Tyvek and putting the siding back. Good luck. You would do well to read them carefully and be prompt and persistent if you see something that needs to be taken care of. The technology of timber framing dates back to pre-Roman times and everyone claims it as their own Japan, England, Scotland, Denmark, Norway, France, Germany.2Timber framing involved big pieces of wood held together with pegs and interlocking joints (mortise and tenon). I see, mine are rough sawn and of course old. Lets look at some insulation options relative to a baseline of 2x4 with R-15 batt: The cost to build with 2x4 prescriptively is extremely high, adding up to $6,264 in costs. Modern mobile home manufacturing plants are marvels of organizational efficiency. Another question i have been meaning to ask is how vapour permeable is plaster and lath, these days i doubt it matters but if i ever do the exterior insulation (if i win the lottery first) it might become relevant. I have to almost gut floor sag issues (roof shingle layers weight bearing is in excess so bowing floors all exterior walls out). The plan to plan variation is not great and anyone who has worked at the factory for more than a few weeks has all the variations memorized. That's what the term 16 OC, or 'on center' means in construction lingo. It looks like it might be the tow bar but ive really no idea. Even more sophisticated are insulating sheathings that combine not only the functions of a sheathing and housewrap but also provide thermal resistance (really, they are sophisticated even though these products were first introduced in the 1950s). Lumber used for framing rose at rates from 46% to 65%. of Housing and Urban Development). My experience was that it was very hard to add enough value to make such extensive renovations worthwhile from a financial standpoint. We are in the process of possibly buying a newly built home. The first really big thing was the shortage of skilled labor. It will open a new window and you will have to scroll down to see the article. Is the main electrical panel, done by the factory, at fault, did the AC installer make a mistake, etc. While all of this weatherboard, clapboard and sheathing evolution was going on things were also happening with the other stuff used as infill between the posts and staves. In the 1930s fiberglass insulation was invented by the Owens Corning Company to insulate homes. Could you add extra supports that are resting on the wall & marriage line? The standards that must be met depend on where the home will be located. The manufacturer is not responsible for damage in transit or what happens on the dealers lot. I would like to put a gun safe in. Then, if the house is getting a shingle roof, plywood or OSB decking is nailed over the trusses. In Old Norse load bearing posts were called stafr which gave rise to the term stave construction. I really dont want to tear down the existing ceiling and start over. A physical inspection needs someone young and skinny who knows where to (carefully) place their hands and feet or you will be coming back to the website to look into ceiling repairs. I really appreciate the fast reply. There was also a 570-seat auditorium (where large public meetings were held) and a grade school. You may have good reasons why it is the best approach for your situation. Check out this link (http://www.americanheritage.com/articles/magazine/it/1999/4/1999_4_50.shtml). The main panel box is installed and breakers, etc. 54.173.119.173 For any nominal lumber dimension over 6 inches, the dimensional size will be inch smaller. That is how I found the problem, it was fastened I think jus below the top plate. Guess which technology was used? Studs are the vertical boards and are normally 2 x 4 and spaced every 16 in a manufactured home. I was told this happened because of the weight of the drywall.Today I reinforced the exterior perimeter with 44s every 4 feet to maybe help combat this from going further. You can look at the pdf for wind rules and anything else you might want to see. Manufacturers and dealers love to blame each other so at least some manufacturers video tape the inside, Read More Mobile Home ManufacturersContinue, I am frequently asked for help finding someone who does good, affordable, repair work. Faith YoungHi Paul. JonaThanks for your reply, sadly I dont have that kind of space available. Homes that are not quite ready to ship will back up in the yard. I wonder if you need to check with an insurance company/agent with more mobile home insurance experience?Good luck,PaulHenry GoetzThanks Paul. Daniel OwensAlso my attic is not vented. My house looks mostly like the victory style in that pdf file, but not quite, and i am surrounded by Regency, Edwardian, and some late Victorian. Building designs can pass the Michigan Energy Code with 2x4 construction. The vinyl is then covered with a protective mat or plastic sheeting. cathyI wish to know what mph winds can a singlewide mobile home withstandPaulFrom the weather reports I can see why you might be worried, but unfortunately, there isnt an easy answer. Where I get concerned is when the weight is concentrated and near the outside walls.Reply.Leslie FayHey Paul! I live in a very old house in Ontario Canada and its built with actual 2x4s, i have no idea how old the house is so im hoping to get some idea by finding out when 2x4s were shrunk and assuming the house was built before that. If you have any type of blueprint to a trailer that old I would greatly appreciate it.ThanksPaulIm not an engineer, and have never seen any plans that show how such an opening must be supported. Lots of interesting things happen during transport. These headers are 7 1/4" wide, and 3 1/2" thick, so they work nicely in a 2x4 wall. Any suggestions for me EdPaulHi Edward,Ill have to admit that when looking at older homes I could never see any significant difference between brands.Water damage is the biggest hidden problem. Hi Kevin, i have attached a few photos, they are the best my phone can take, i can dig out the camera if need be, i found some flat nails when i was removing the fiberglass in the headers for the cellulose, so i assume that is what the house is made of Electrical and Assembly. Is there any water in the A/C ducts? They can pull the trap a long way before they stop moving. Hope this is of some help: Note the word frame. A frame has four sides. Trim strips can cover a multitude of things quickly and cheaply. Photograph 2: Exposed Timber FrameOne hundred and fifty year timber frame house being renovated. I am in Alaska, so also intend to put vertical 2 x 4s in the interior walls, and insulate the hell out of this place!! JillDo you have any generic blue print style drawings that I can work off of? I had a roofer (who has worked on mobile homes) tell me that he can remove the metal roof, lay OSB, and install a rubber sealed roofing material. It is remarkably solidextremely heavy the movers had said. I never tried anything like that. The temptation will be to ship them anyhow. The changes were effective on November 7, 2016. He still sneaks up on you! This is where knowing exactly who is responsible for what will be essential. Think about it, we did not change the I-Codes to require building paper for all houses until after 2000 less than a decade ago. Many plasters were applied with elaborate decorative patterns. My problem is where the carport is attached has pulled away and drooped. Work that took 15 minutes in the factory becomes a two man, two-day job for service. $1.95 sq/ft- 2x4 construction, 1 exterior foam board and R-13 cavity. Wood frame walls are pretty impressive technological creations. CarolWe have a double wide and want to take down a closet in the middle of the kitchen, to open up to the living area, should be be worried about a support beamPaulIf the wall you want to remove is on the marriage line where the two halves of the house come together you do NOT want to remove it. Just for fun, I have attached a list of the defects a new homeowner might want to check for before accepting delivery of their home. Thank you again for being on the web. I dont see any way to access the ceiling to place a trap.Its a 1973 Buddy (still in good shape)Do I have to do a cut-out somewhere ?Thanks MikePaulHi Mike,Since I have never, to my knowledge, seen a 1973 Buddy I am just guessing the answer is yes.It might be possible to de-mount a bathroom ceiling fan and use that opening. JohnI have an 89 FW reflections 1480. Mrs. OLearys cow helped. timber framing seems to have evolved from palisade construction where logs were embedded in the ground vertically side-by-side supporting a roof. At the very least, could I remove the existing, ugly ceiling and replace it with the bead board or some other material?VickyPaulCertainly you can replace the existing ceiling tile with something you like better. They also dont waste a lot of time tacking wire to the studs inside the walls.